Super league takes shape as NBL, SCL reshuffle
New thoughts
What will change for qualifying on to NCS.
Probably nothing in cross country since every team gets to move on regardless of how they did in league finals.
In track the NCS has regional meets for these four areas: Redwood, Bay Shore, Tri-Valley, Class A.
First question is will they keep these four and drop the new Southernmost League, that includes Casa, Petaluma and Sonoma Valley, into the Redwood area meet or would it go to another Area meet?
If the Southernmost League is in the Redwood Area meet and our area has a top tier group A league and a lower tier league it would make no since for those two to get the same number of qualifiers from league finals onto Redwood meet.
In track the current break down to move on looks like this.
North Bay Top 6 from finals
Sonoma County 6
Humboldt-Del Norte (Big 5) 6
Marin County 6
Lower Lake athlete(s) place in the top four (4) of the CMC meet
=24 + LL
No clue how they will change the numbers but it might look something like this.
Local “A” division/ old North Bay Top 6 from finals
Humboldt-Del Norte (Big 5) 5
Marin County 5
New Southernmost League 5
Local “B” division/ old Sonoma County 3
Lower Lake athlete(s) place in the top four (4) of the CMC meet
=24 + LL
More than likely they will do something very different, but just to show one possible solution.
They say that for our “A” division/“B” division/ that each sport will decide which schools will be in which division. These votes are usually by the AD’s of each school.
Wondering how much input the coaches will get in this.
Title 9 has boys and girls track/cross country/swimming and others as separate sports. But as we know in ours that we consider them one team, same coaches and meets run together. Will this stay the same?
When deciding on which division A or B a school goes in what do you do if a program is strong for boys but weaker for girls.
Example: You have to decide is Piner for track A or B. In 2017 their boys were strong placing 3rd in SCL but their girls that year were 6th only above Elsie Allen.
Do the boys go A and the girls B. That would be a nightmare that I’m sure will not happen but these are questions that need to be worked out.
In cross country of the new division B group we are probably looking at most dual meets ending as forfeits.
Lets say these 6 schools made up the B group
Cardinal Newman
Analy
El Molino
Elsie Allen
Rancho Cotate
Windsor
Only Newman and Analy sent 5 or more runners to NCS to score team points in the girls division.
If that was true during pre finals league meets almost ever dual meet would end in a double forfeit.
Obviously a better set up for this group would be the 2 center meets system that the NBL is currently using.
If you think this will make a lot of changes for people think about that changes for me an my All-Time lists as I plan to add American Canyon, Justin-Siena, Napa and Vintage to who I cover now that they look to be competing with Casa Grande, Petaluma and Sonoma Valley.
I’d love to hear thoughts on these and other issues to publish. send to [email protected]
Old thoughts from May
If you didn’t see the story about the proposal meeting here it is.
Pending league realignment sure to ruffle feathers
From what I read this is what the new leagues might look like.
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MCAL League (9 schools)
This league stays the same it just drops Justin-Siena
Branson
Marin Catholic
Novato
Redwood
San Marin
San Rafael
Sir Francis Drake
Tamalpais
Terra Linda
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Southernmost League (6 schools)
Brand new league with 3 of ours plus the new guys
American Canyon
Casa Grande
Justin-Siena
Napa
Petaluma
Sonoma Valley
Vintage
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NBL/SCL (Two leagues of 6 schools)
As I understand it ever two years the best 6 schools of these 12, different for each sport, is one league and bottom 6 are another.
Analy
Cardinal Newman
El Molino
Elsie Allen
Healdsburg
Maria Carrillo
Montgomery
Piner
Rancho Cotate
Santa Rosa
Ukiah
Windsor
As an example here are the team times from the last XC NCS meet.
If that truly showed top 6 and bottom six then the next leagues would look like this.
“A” division
Maria Carrillo 1:20:42/1:35:40
Piner 1:23:23/1:41:12
Santa Rosa 1:24:40/1:42:32
Ukiah 1:27:08/1:44:42
Montgomery 1:26:21/1:47:14
Healdsburg 1:25:18/1:48:24
“B” division
Cardinal Newman 1:29:15/1:52:42
Analy 1:35:35/1:47:07
El Molino 1:27:43/no team time
Elsie Allen nt
Rancho Cotate nt
Windsor nt
Now Track could be very different and might look something like this.
“A” division
Maria Carrillo
Montgomery
Santa Rosa
Windsor
El Molino
Piner
“B” division
Cardinal Newman
Healdsburg
Analy
Ukiah
Rancho Cotate
Elsie Allen
Then would the top six go back to 5 dual meets before league finals.
Would bottom six stay with tri-meets so each meet would have some competition.
If we do end up with this would any league finals meet records still exist?
How about number of kids qualifying from league to NCS Redwood Regional?
Much is going to change.